Why would you say Spain has acquired this reputation as Europe's political exception?

Well, first of all, I would say the economy.

The economy is growing a lot.

We are one of the leaders in the Eurozone.

Then we also have the exception of, uh, let's say, like this progressive stand in, uh, geopolitical topics, such as the Palestine, uh, conflict, the, the genocide in Palestine, or even just standing up against Trump's policies.

Uh, for some, in the case of NATO, Spain has decided that we're not gonna, um, spend the 5% that Trump is, uh, urging everyone to spend, but that we are co- gonna commit with the, with the compromises that we had, that is, like, to continue, you know, investing in defense, but that we're just not gonna be this, uh, let's say, we're gonna surrender to what Trump is saying.

Also, for example, in the case, um, [clears throat] of the ecological transition in Spain during, uh, um...

Why is that the case?