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Ellis Hart

Ellis Hart

Aug 20, 2026

0:51
Sure.
0:52
Yeah, you know, so, you know, the ending is just sort of like your happy ending, right? And so they're able to...
0:57
George dies, and there's this cool moment where, like, originally I had Nate jumping in and, like, saving the day, right? And there is a moment where he's able to, like, jump in and kind of distract for a moment, but Margo's the one that kind of gets, like, the final kick for him, you know, and just really is able to...
1:19
And so, you know, that happens.
1:22
They're able to fix up Hawthorne Manor and turn it into like a foster home.
1:28
And she's able to kind of reclaim some of her parental identity by providing a safe place for her kids.
1:35
foster kids, which she wasn't able to do with Lila.

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right?
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And in reality, it was horrific.
31:43
Yeah, there were definitely a couple elements that I knew from the very beginning.
31:46
My wife and I had had an ectopic pregnancy a couple years before that.
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I'm not sure if you're familiar with that is, but basically like a pregnancy that inevitably is not a viable pregnancy.
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So you lose the baby.
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There's like nothing that science can do.
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And we had been trying for a really long time, and it was horrible, not only because ectopics are just sad and awful, but it ruptured, which means that she almost internally bled to death, and we didn't even know.

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Do you feel like when you're, when you finished the book, did you feel like you had personally processed things or personally changed through that journey of writing the book?

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