Who was the person that, uh, was dealing with both sides, like, with, with the [laughs] with, with the side of the producer, and on the other side with somebody who wants perfection, which is impossible?

I w- I would say I did a lot of that work, and it, and it wasn't because we didn't want to adhere to all the deep science, but we're trying to tell a story at the end of the day.

And so some of these subject matter experts, they wanna go really deep on things that don't maybe translate to a 38-minute immersive experience where you need to keep the flow and the momentum of the story.

And so for example, you know, on many of these instances where that would come up where the scientist would say, "Oh, no, but we need to explain, you know, what happens after a supernova, and the star can go in, you know, one of 10 different directions, and it can turn into a white dwarf or a, a r- you know, red giant or a, a black hole." And we would...

We created this mechanism called the AR overlays, which are more information inside of the experience.

And so we, we focused the story on the core visuals that we all thought would be, you know, the main through line of the story.

But then if you look left and right or behind you, there's oftentimes text boxes or diagrams or things going deeper.

Can, can you please just, just again explain who is Smithsonian or what is Smithsonian?