Really?

But with bobsled...

Why is that? You know, that's a great question.

And I think in the early 2000s, There was this coach that got hired at Hendrick Motorsports, which is the big one, the big team.

And he had this kind of like revolutionary idea.

He was like, you know, instead of because at the time, NASCAR was a pretty redneck sport.

Right.

So have you ever worked really hard at something and still failed? And what did you do next?