What do you think that sort of, like, tells us about humanity and, like, the human condition? [laughs]

Well, history does say, um, when it goes left unchecked, challenges left unchecked, it will repeat itself, and that's exactly what is happening.

And I find it, it con- it connects for me also with Windrush generation.

I'm sure you've heard about that.

Um, the Windrush generation, mostly Caribbean people, African and Caribbean people, who were involved in the Second World War.

They came, and they fought for the motherland, the U- U- United Kingdom, and then after the war, many of them settled in the UK.

And, um, 50, 60 years later they were being told, um, [laughs] "Sorry, thank you, but, um, can you go back now, please?" Do you know what I'm saying? Um, a lot of them, their children were born in the UK, their grandchildren, they pay tax.

Mm.

And what was it like in the state when different communities were debating the pros and cons of data centers moving in?

Data center developers will come in with the reasoning that data centers are great neighbors.

They're these big, giant buildings that sit relatively empty.

They don't use a ton of resources, and they contribute to the tax base.

What we at Business Insider found is that that isn't necessarily always the case.

We did an investigation called The True Cost of Data Centers, and one of our findings was, um, you know, data centers are guzzling millions of gallons of fresh water a day.

Forty percent of, of US data centers are in water-stressed areas of the country.

You know, I, I wonder if you could just elaborate for me a little bit more on some of the other environmental impacts that you're, uh, coming up against in your reporting.