Mm-hmm.

So that leads to hypermobility is the most obvious symptom.

So, um, and joints that pop out.

It has other symptoms that related to organs, but ultimately, um, it is not common or necessarily recommended [laughs] to pursue, uh, distance running with this, uh, condition.

And yet I'm well aware that it is an extreme privilege that I'm able to do so, and a lot of people with this condition can't.

I know one person my age with a diagnosis, and she uses mobility aids, um, a walker and, um, neck brace, and that sort of thing.

So it makes things more challenging, um, but it's also a big reason that I'm talking about it, because it's very much under- misunderstood, uh, little known compared to the impact, and particularly women have a hard time getting answers when it comes to this condition.

Wow

Do you prefer running not on a loop, like when you just go one direction and it's always fresh and new? Or do you just get the runner's high no matter what?

You know, I don't get the classic runner's high.

People are always surprised to hear that.

Yeah.

I hear people describe it and I'm like, I don't think that's something that happens to me.

But I will say I tend to get a bit of a refresh, like this quasi lobotomy after the fact.

No, it can definitely... disrupt whatever pattern I'm in.

so many memorable moments.