Is there a story behind how you got to where you're at today? Tell us a little bit about your journey and how it led to being so purposeful in your projects.

Yeah, I think a career is an evolution.

And I think, you know, it's incumbent upon us to learn from each stage, you know, each moment, each experience, each project, each partner, you know, each chapter.

So I began learning about real estate when I was 14.

I was transferring deeds from my grandfather's law firm at a courthouse in Ohio where I grew up.

I was raised with these very Midwestern values of you work hard for what you get.

And that has carried me through.

I'm curious about who in your world today influences how you think about place, how you think about what you're deciding you want to build and what those when you talk When you talk about creating meaningful places, which is what is this thread that I see through this, and value from that, but not just value for the financial bottom line, value for the community, who in your world sort of informs why and how you develop?