
Ellen Baker
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Jul 14, 2026
Reinventing Yourself in Midlife: A Novelist on How to Write the Next Chapter of Your Life
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Ellen BakerGUEST
So it is a really exciting way to think about life, and I'm a, an author of fiction, so this is how I came up with it, is like, if I can create a character and decide who she is and, and the things she believes and the things that sh- are important to her, and, and I notice that throughout the story that those affect the story, and I can start to change them if I don't like where the story's going.

Ellen BakerGUEST
I can actually create problems by making her believe a certain thing if I want a certain problem in the story.

Ellen BakerGUEST
And so I thought, "Well, this could be really applicable to life, too." Because what I notice in stories is that I may have written a whole novel, and the novel may be set, but if I go back and change on page 20 one line of dialogue that somebody says, sometimes th- that's like, "Oh, I've gotta change the whole story now," because this one thing was different.

Ellen BakerGUEST
And so the way that you can apply that in your own life is really by noticing that you have the choice to say what it is you wanna say, and if you say something different and unexpected outside of what you normally would say, it's gonna change the story.

Ellen BakerGUEST
Now, to back up just a little bit from that, I think the most important thing and the first shift to make is to become what I like to call the author of your own life.
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9:34Jessica LongHOST
Absolutely, and so this concept of looking at ourselves so objectively, it requires us to step outside of ourselves a little bit, the way an author looks at a character, right? How do you coach women how to do that, to actually step outside of yourself and look more objectively at yourself and your own life?