Often women feel like it's just one more person to look after.

Yes.

I mean, of course, this isn't the case for 100%, but it was an overwhelming case of that.

that we're just still seeing the caring load, the emotional load, the domestic load is not equal.

And I think putting kids into the mix really puts that under the spotlight as well.

So for a lot of the women that I spoke to, it was a matter of that, yeah, it was, you know, he was very good, but I still had to, you know, keep on him, write lists.

I had to remind him, I had to you know, teach him things about being a parent when talking about, you know, the father of their children.

But can we do anything for women who are feeling this? Is something like therapy going to help?

Mm.

And then one day was just feeling sort of a bit sick and thought, "Oh, hang on, I think my period's late," and did a pregnancy test and was like, "Oh, whoa, damn.

Positive.

How did that happen?" Went and did all the proper blood tests and everything, was 16 weeks.

And was like, "Okay, that- that's fine.

Further along than I thought it, but I'll terminate this pregnancy because it's, it's not a child that's wanted." But at the time was just getting delayed and delayed and delayed and put on the back burner by doctors, by the clinics that she was visiting, which is something that is prevalent of doctors thinking they will regret this termination.

Mm

... and, and getting rid of this sorta shock, horror as well and just recognizing that motherhood does exist in a spectrum.