Mm-hmm.

And so there is a live performance component that all of us just, we, we broker in that.

So to immediately f- be able to drop into just a theatrical performance element, uh, while there happened to be a camera in front of us as well, uh, I, I think aided that feel, hopefully.

Go ahead, I'm sorry.

Yeah, no, no. Um, both of those deaths are hard, are really hard.

Young.

They were young.

They had young kids.

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Um, I think that where we find Katrina is that she has these raw materials, and it's like I...

She doesn't know how to put them together in a coherent way that, that then builds a life.

And I think that what she sees in Jake is, is a man who was able to build something significant, and he was able to take the materials around him in his own life and move them in a direction.

And even though, you know, to continue the metaphor, the, the, the, the structure's toppling a bit, um, there, there is something about the way he is a, a constructor, a builder, that I think that she's just looking to say, "Where do I put these bricks of my life?"

Yeah.

"How do I place them in a meaningful way?" So that would probably be the biggest lesson, I think, that she takes away from Jake.

Um, and I think she finds a family member.