What kind of numbers are we talking about? What kind of benefit can somebody get? And what are some of the techniques that you use to help them qualify for them?

Sure.

So we're going to keep this as a pretty, pretty high level because it can get really granular.

Now, one thing to explain first is that I'm in California.

These are California rules.

Every other state does not offer this option.

So this is only an option in California.

And the other confusing part, if I'm correct on this, is when we have i got a revocable trust for my assets while i'm alive when i pass it becomes then irrevocable so it's the same trust i think that becomes irrevocable so i can see where i can assume say well what difference does it make i'll just make it irrevocable now so let's talk about that what if somebody did the wrong trust they went on chat gpt and typed it in and moved all their assets into the irrevocable trust what happens then