Mm-hmm

... and creating work that hopefully has this very strange ambiguity, where you're, you're not quite sure what's real.

There's sort of an uneasiness.

And, um, I published three books.

One, the first was The Community in 2020 with Merrell Books.

The second was The Four Pillars with Loose Joints in 2022.

And then in, in this past September with Nomic Book, I published The Children's Melody.

Mm-hmm.