Can you illuminate this for us?

Yeah.

So, so listen, I would say that, um-- I'd say that it takes a lot for, uh, uh, for military people to complain.

You know, I mean, to each other, of course, we, we kvetch all the time, right? But, um, but what, what I think at heart is a huge part of the problem is, uh, a lack of, of real idea of mission and purpose of what, um, the sailors are doing.

I mean, these sailors on board the Lincoln are doing amazing things.

I mean, they are working so hard.

And as, as you and I both know and agree, we have the finest military in the world.

If we need them [laughs]

But Admiral Laubacher explains watching foundational public institutions unravel forced her to rethink where her service was needed most.

That's such a great question, Joe.

I would tell you, uh, no part of me ever thought that I would be doing something like this.

You know, I've, I've never been interested in being a politician, but, you know, in the last year and a half, just w- I mean, January, February, March of last year, right? Watching all these institutions and organizations that I've just given my whole life for just be torn apart before my eyes, I just really felt, um, that call again, that call to serve, to try to make a difference at this time, to, um, to get, to get more grownups in the room, more people who believe in bringing people together and solving hard problems, right? Rather than tearing things apart.

Uh, and I just felt that I, that I had to do this, that I, you know, that we just need...

Well, frankly, we need more veterans, and we need more people who understand that, that these jobs are about service-

Yeah.

I mean, you look at the impact that it is having on every aspect of our lives.