Can you tell us what human rights work actually looks like in that context? What kind of thing are you doing on a day-to-day basis on the Eastern Cape?

I think this is where it becomes sometimes for me very sobering to explain these issues and the human rights realizations and the human rights concerns on the ground to communities and perhaps listeners around the world that not necessarily have an opportunity to visit us and to understand what are the issues we on a daily basis grapple with.

And being the provincial manager, I always tell my boys, I don't have to do this.

I get to do this.

But we deal with about a thousand complaints per year, complaints and inquiries that cross my desks.

And this is only in one of the provinces.

And Matthias, these complaints are names.

So, if one actually took the inheritance, the shared legacy seriously, the legacy theme that we talked about, the inheritance theme that we talked about, what would this ask of white South Africans a few decades after these dramatic political changes?