Talk to me about those.

Look, first, I want to tell you, it's a catch 22 if.

We put out information, people say, oh my gosh, crime is crazy.

If you don't put out information, they say, oh my God, they're hiding everything, right? So no matter what we do, there's going to be a critic one way or the other.

So let's be clear.

There's always been crime.

There's always been crime in Hammond.

That was huge.