So how do we change that mentality?

So what I've seen is a shift from, you know, if we look at what was probably now labeled legacy technology, if you look at, let's say, databases is a good one to focus on.

At the beginning of my career, sort of the best in class was an active passive model where you would be writing to a master node and maybe replicating to a standby node.

And that was state of the art for a long time.

However, that failure mode of switching from active to passive is always going to have a cut over time.

And it could be five minutes.

But in real time payment system, five minutes could impact 100,000 payments.

So how do you make sure it will scale for that?