But throughout the state, because you're representing so many people- In Massachusetts, what does it mean for them to rely on waters of all kinds, both the ocean, the lakes, and the rivers that you have throughout your state?

Well, you know, for people who love Cape Cod, uh, actually, Massachusetts brought a lawsuit.

And, and it basically said, uh, in its suit, which was Massachusetts versus EPA, um, that the waters of Massachusetts were getting dangerously high because of climate change, and it was endangering our coastline.

So they brought that case saying that it was the fossil fuel industry, through their greenhouse gases, that were leading to, uh, this endangerment of our coastline.

And that lawsuit was finally rendered by the Supreme Court in April of 2007 in Massachusetts versus EPA.

And that decision said to the EPA, "You must make a decision as to whether or not climate change is endangering the coastline." And ultimately, the EPA made that decision.

And out of that, Barack Obama, Joe Biden, were able to take actions, uh, that reduce greenhouse gases through the vehicles we drive, through the, uh, power plants that emit fossil fuel emissions up into the atmosphere.

It's, it's being watched.

Was it-- Was that a fair line of attack, do you think?

Uh, well, honestly, we don't have any way of knowing who he voted for.

He might have voted for Trump, he might have voted-- He says he voted for Joe Biden, but then unbelievably, um, three years later after he voted for Joe Biden in 2020, he's running against Elizabeth Warren.

He's moving from Rhode Island to run against Elizabeth Warren, uh, as our incumbent senator in 2024.

Uh, he had never lived in Massachusetts.

So, um, I, I think it's a stretch to say he never voted for, um, for Trump and just take his word for it because his actions belie them.

He ran against Elizabeth Warren on everything that Joe Biden had put on the books during his time as president up until that point in time.

Are there or are there?

Uh, Senator Markey, did you ever expect a president of the United States to say, "We have been very protective of them," and mean the billionaire dictators of the Middle East?

Well, um, I, I think it's a perfect day for Trump.

He's, on the one hand, uh, he is, uh, willing to, um, tear down the Kennedy Center, uh, even as President Kennedy always taught us that, uh, courage is grace under pressure, that he, we would pay any price in order to protect democracy, in order to, uh, protect people around the world who needed protection from dictators.

Uh, and that's what Donald Trump now is all about.

He's, he's no longer anywhere near a profile in courage.

He's a profile in corruption.

Uh, and as you just said, the voters not only, uh, in, um, in Democratic homes, but in Republican homes all across our country, they can now see very clearly who he is, and they are running as fast as they can away from him, uh, uh, all across this country in red districts, in, uh, red Senate seats.

Polls are showing voters, number one, don't believe it's ever gonna happen and don't believe it's a good idea.

Our report on what it could mean for the midterms when we come back.

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They said, "Another Mr. Smith comes to Washington." Is there any part of you that understands kind of that chorus that some people are, are, are singing across the country when they're running for office, that it's time for a generational change?

Do you think that when y'all return, Trump is really going to go hard on the SAVE Act again?

Yeah, the polling is very bad for Republicans across the country.

They've tried to gerrymander.

They're trying to do everything that they can, but...

They've got big problems this fall.

And so they know that they really can't win unless they put ICE agents on the street or they just change the laws.

It makes it more difficult for people to vote because it's really not to save our democracy act.

Mm-hmm.

Why don't you assuage some of the concerns by those who have them by releasing health records, Senator?

Well, again, as I said, the only thing healthier than me is the investment portfolio of Congressman Moulton.

I think everyone listening to, watching this interview right now can see that I am healthy.

fighting every single day against Donald Trump.

I am a happy warrior.

I enjoy this fight every single day.

And I have been crisscrossing the Commonwealth, community after community, the mayors, the state representatives, the state senators, all across the Commonwealth have endorsed me.

So would you still vote for him now?

Even as they've tried to destroy it, there is a resilience there partially because of the things that you helped put in the, you know, in the big, uh, bill that was passed under Joe Biden that have, have proved fairly resilient because they've gotten so cheap

cheapE- exactly.

Um, uh, you know, when Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and I introduced the Green New Deal, um, uh, it created, um, a, a, a movement.

It created the momentum that led to Joe Biden signing, uh, the IRA, which is just another word for the biggest climate, uh, solutions bill in the history of the world.

Uh, and what Donald Trump has, uh, said to the oil, gas, and coal industry, "If you pay me off," this is almost like Godfather Part I, um, "If you, uh, uh, if you give me a billion dollars, I'll give, uh, those other industries an offer they can't refuse." And what we're seeing, for example, Chris, off of the East Coast, you already made reference to this, um, we were gonna deploy 30,000 megawatts of offshore wind, uh, to displace the natural gas or coal burning that we were using for, uh, the generation of electricity.

And what Trump is now doing, uh, his Secretary of Energy, his Secretary of Interior, they're saying to the offshore wind companies, "We're gonna give you all your money back.

We want you to stop, uh, the construction of the offshore wind projects, and then we want you to take, uh, all of those hundreds of millions and billions of dollars and put them into natural gas and oil projects in the Southwest." So this is-

I know there's a lot of outrage and a lot of anger.

You're doing fine out there because I'm doing fine.

Yeah, these are individual investments which Donald Trump made last year.

And he has been able to see an incredible windfall profit to himself personally.

And this doesn't even count all the rest of his family members and cronies, Albania or other countries around the world where they're moving in.

This is just a perfect example of of him being the corruption commander in chief.

That's who he is.

And everything he does is towards his own self enrichment, rather than dealing with the fact that gasoline prices are up, food prices are up, healthcare costs are up, electricity prices are up.

What would what the Justice Department is suggesting actually look like in practice? And what can you do to push back?

But what, if anything, as you're down there in Congress, do you think could happen vis-a-vis both data centers and regulation of AI? Let's start with the data centers because a lot of people in Massachusetts are very worried about them.

Well, obviously, AI is going to insinuate itself into every single aspect of American life.

And we just have to make sure that AI stands for all included.

And it's why, over the last two and a half years, I've introduced four major pieces of legislation.

Number one, the AI Civil Rights Act, endorsed by every major civil rights group in the United States.

Because as AI continues to expand, we're seeing a migration of the discrimination that exists in the real world, in housing, in education, healthcare, in employment, all migrating over in these algorithms to this AI world that is unfolding.

So I've introduced that piece of legislation.

of the Strait of Hormuz.

Senator, uh, there's Donald Trump pretending that, uh, John Kerry and President Obama didn't already negotiate exactly the words that he is hoping to get Iran to agree to, which he hasn't been able to get them to agree to yet.

John Kerry and Barack Obama ensured that the International Atomic Energy Agency would be able to go anywhere they needed to go in order to determine whether or not the Iranians were violating the nuclear agreement.

And there was no evidence, uh, that they were doing so.

And in fact, the Iranians were at least a year away from getting a nuclear weapon, uh, because of that full-scope safeguards program which John Kerry and Barack Obama negotiated.

And so when, uh, Donald Trump pulled out of that agreement in 2017, uh, he was triggering something that would ultimately result in Donald Trump himself in 2025 saying that he, uh, was going to go in to obliterate the nuclear program.

Uh, and this year, uh, once again re-instigated an attack against Iran, uh, all to put us back to where John Kerry and Barack Obama had us in in the first place.

But with no regime change and the Iranians controlling all of the oil going through the Straits of Hormuz with no likelihood for the rest of our life- for the rest of our lifetimes that they are going to give up that control, and we're already seeing a buck 50 a gallon gasoline prices, uh, increase all across our country.

Uh, and when he goes into that interview saying things th- like he said, it, it seems very clear he has no idea what was in the agreement that he ripped up.

Do you believe your Republican colleagues are earnest and honest in the statements we're seeing from them today? Or do you believe, as we kind of do at this table, that they're going to come back in June and Go along to get along in some way, shape, or

form.

Look, it's an impeachable offense.

What Richard Nixon was impeached for that he did in private Donald Trump is now doing in public on steroids.

This is a complete impeachable offense.

That was the very thing that our founding fathers were concerned about, uh, in ensuring that we had a president with checks and balances and not a King, uh, who could compromise our government.

So this is exactly what the founding fathers, what the constitution was meant to protect against and, um, Republicans right now realize that this is political kryptonite.

And by the way, here's money for you at the end of the day.

So help me understand.

Well, you're sick of it.

I'm sick of it.

But for the Republican Party, the American people are sick of it.

And we're starting to see some defections in the House and the Senate on the Republican side, if for no other reason than to save themselves this November in the elections, because the American people are suffering from a consumer catastrophe at home because of the $1.50 a gallon increase in gasoline, $2 a gallon increase in diesel.

It's going through the price of eggs and coffee and tomatoes and every other good that's sold in America.

And the Republicans, who are smart, are starting to smell the makings of a landslide heading their way.

Talk to me about what this summit should have been like and what it ended up being in the shadow of Donald Trump's war with Iran.

What is your reaction to those comments from Secretary Hegseth, and are you willing to consider this was just a negotiating tactic on the president's part?

What, what Trump and Hegseth were planning was a war crime.

Uh, it was a, a, a, a, a promise to destroy a civilization, to commit a genocide, to, uh, to wipe out the capacity for that country, its civilians, to be able to operate.

It was a war crime that had, uh, been planned, and it was about to be perpetrated, and Hegseth is saying that they were ready to push the button to do it.

That is a morally bankrupt policy, uh, that Trump was seeking to put in place.

We had already lost 13 service person.

100, uh, Iranian students had been killed.

GOP Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin, often a Trump ally, told the Wall Street Journal yesterday that the president, quote, "Loses me if he attacks civilian targets like infrastructure." Does it give you any comfort that some of your Republican colleagues share your perspective on this issue?

Uh, what is your reaction to Donald Trump ins- a- as, as Iran puts it, uh, surrendering now and, uh, stopping his war, leaving Iran in control of the Strait of Hormuz?

Yeah, Donald Trump has surrendered, not the Iranians.

Um, and what he has been doing over the last, uh, several days is an impeachable offense.

He has threatened a genocide against a nation.

He has threatened to end a civilization.

He has threatened to use nuclear weapons against a country that does not have nuclear weapons.

All of these are impeachable offenses, uh, and he must be brought to justice.

It undermines our longstanding role as a global beacon of freedom and directly endangers Americans both abroad and at home." But the rest of your Republican Senate colleagues are absolutely silent, along with the Republican speaker of the House, who did not say one word about this today.

Does that give you any hope these discussions are yielding real progress towards peace?

No. Trump in his cabinet meeting yesterday said that he had taken a little detour into Iran.

Well, this little detour has come with a big price, higher prices for oil, higher prices for gasoline, higher prices for home heating oil, higher prices for natural gas, and the price of lost American lives of our servicemen who are over there.

And what Trump is now saying is that He is delaying his attempt to take Karg Island, which is the big oil depot in Iran.

That would be, well, the perfect violation of the first law of holes, which is when you're in one, already stop digging.

The price at the pump? It's a buck a gallon more for all Americans.

It's Trump at the pump.

How do you respond to that, Senator?

Senator, I saw your, uh, uh, I, I, I think, you know, earnest but, but somewhat trolling recommendation the CEOs take a pay cut, but I do wonder if there's actual some sort of windfall tax that could get some real legislative momentum, uh, in the Senate or the House on a bipartisan basis if we see what we think is gonna happen if this continues.

Well, exactly.

Um, Donald Trump said in this press conference today that he was taking...

He decided to take a little detour into Iran.

Well, that little detour is coming at a big price.

Skyrocketing gasoline prices, skyrocketing home heating oil prices, skyrocketing inflation.

Uh, they...

The idea that we have to still be tied to oil prices is increasingly deranged, and lots of the world isn't, but yet we are, and partly because the Trump administration has been going to war against all the alternatives.

It's up.

So great question.

So Senator Wyden and Senator Shaheen and I introduced the Tariff Refund Act.

The small businesses of the United States, by the way, 97% of all businesses that engage in trade are small businesses.

So they sued Donald Trump.

And they said that he was illegally using a 1977 law which didn't mention the word tax or tariff in order to dramatically raise the tariffs on these small businesses and large businesses as well, and as a result, on consumers.

Well, on Friday, the Supreme Court said the small businesses were right, that it was illegal what Trump was doing.

It's already time tested and approved.

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Wow! Joy Reid, what a job she is doing tonight.

[audience cheering] Just absolutely incredible, Joy.

Thank you.

Um, and, uh, thank you all for being out here this evening.

Tonight, I am not in the US Capitol for Donald Trump's State of the Union Address.

I am here with you at the People's State of the Union.

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Because the state of the union should be a moment of truth, a reckoning with reality, a commitment to the common good.

But under Donald Trump, it has become a lies-a-palooza that goes on for hours.

With him, if he was Pinocchio, his nose would stretch across the entire width of the floor of the Congress this evening.

It's one big lie, a made-for-TV spectacle, a bogus sales pitch, and a slap in the face of the millions of Americans who are living through their struggles each and every day.

Trump will stand before Congress tonight and say that everything is fine.

He will say the economy is the best ever while working families are drowning under the weight of healthcare bills and housing costs and food costs, and Trump tariff taxes.

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What do you wanna see happen legislatively to rein in the kinds of abuses we're seeing?

Well, first of all, Stephen Miller is wrong.

There is not absolute immunity.

Um, if a ICE agent kills someone, they can be prosecuted for that.

ICE agents should understand that.

They're liable if they violate the constitutional rights of the citizens of the United States.

They are not immune from the laws of our nation.

Do you think that this is lawful and constitutional, fundamentally what's happening, what you're seeing?

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... all year long so that their energy and environment policies are not made public.

So yeah, in today's hearing, it was like a kabu- a kabuki theater.

Um, they didn't answer the key questions.

How much is this gonna cost the American people? How long are they going to be there? What are the boundaries on this, uh, adventurism? Is it going into Cuba, or is it going into, uh, Greenland? We got no answers to those questions.

But the key question, and you're putting your finger right on it, is what did the oil companies know and when did they know it? That goes back to Watergate.

Trump said the oil companies knew before the invasion.

Do they make any attempt to even pretend that this is... that there's something in this benefits the American people?

How can you possibly now have the authority to narrowly preempt AI regulations? Has this been presented to you in any way that makes coherent sense? Or is this just more, let's see how much power we can acquire and use?

Yeah, I think that's all you have to understand.

What, what you're saying is that it's all about power, and it's the power of, um, of whoever can pay the most to the White House.

The AI industry wants state preemption.

The AI industry wants preemption of state privacy laws, California, New York, other places.

Uh, and this administration is, without question, uh, not interested in the public policy consequences of those kinds of repeals, but they instead are interested in what kind of monetary benefit can flow to the Republican Party at the highest levels, uh, because of the capacity of these companies to pay.

So, we- there's a- there's a reason for us to really be concerned right now.

Do you think there's one coming for Democratic leadership? Do you think the current Democratic leadership can lead this fight?

Hm.

... kitchen table issues.

And Donald Trump and his economic policy were completely repudiated on Tuesday night across the country, across all demographics, uh, and across all of expert opinion.

They just did not see this happening.

And so, yes, this is a preview of coming attractions for the Republican Party if they refuse to come back and talk about healthcare, talk about affordability, talk about the issues that the American people really care about.

And so far, what Donald Trump is saying is we have to talk about affordability more, that's what he said yesterday-... yeah, he's talking the talk, but they're not walking the walk.

And the American people can see that.

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And you wrote about it in an op-ed, and I want you to explain to us why this situation of having just one person who can destroy many lives with a nuclear weapon, why this is something that needs to be addressed.

Well, Congressman Ted Lieu and I, we have legislation that says that no president, no one person should have the right to determine when the United States launches nuclear weapons if we have not been attacked by nuclear weapons.

And it's a very important principle that we have to establish in our country.

Secondly, Congressman Lieu and I, we were actually successful last year in having our legislation adopted in the Biden defense bill, which, uh, will prohibit the use of AI to launch nuclear weapons.

We have to continue to move, uh, forward on those issues.

But this movie also demonstrates that the defense technologies which people think will work to shoot down incoming nuclear weapons that can destroy American cities, there's no guarantee that it will work.

And the movie itself now makes that very, very clear as Donald Trump is promising to build a golden dome over our country to protect us against incoming nuclear weapons.

But talk us through what you guys did as Democrats to try to help weigh in there.

Uh, Senator Markey, uh, were any of the Republican senators in that room today concerned about their own family's health now, their own children's health?

health?Uh, well, i- it was hard to identify that concern.

There wasn't much evidence to convict him of being concerned.

Uh, it was still the, the party line, the Trump line on these issues.

And it goes all the way back to January actually, when Senator Cassidy, the chairman of the committee, elicited a promise from Robert F. Kennedy as a condition of his confirmation that he would not file, fire the advisory panel on vaccines.

As soon as he was confirmed, he fired the advisory panel on vaccines.

And then when Dr. Susan Moniz was confirmed as the head of the CDC, he then asked her to pre-approve the vaccine recommendations of this now packed with his vaccine denial cronies recommendations on vaccines, and she refused to do so.

Mm-hmm.