Uh-huh.

A- Andy's known me since before I w- when it be- since a time where I thought games is impractical, uh, as a career, so you can't do that.

And he was like, "You should make games." [laughs] Anyways, uh, yeah, I then went on to work s- in some AAA studios and then did the indie thing, started my own little game company.

And, uh, yeah, first game, Osmos, was I'm designer, lead developer.

Your very own Andy Nealen, uh, contributor on that project, as you know.

Uh, and did, uh, Karmica, a board/card sort of deck buildery game.

Sure.

Uh, yeah, I'll read a little bit here.