Mm-hmm.

So we lived right on the square, as you s- you saw probably, Thomas, on, uh, in the middle of the village, and that's where we started hurling.

And I remember in my own case, beside our, uh, our shop and house was, um, the Ryans had a pub.

My p- there was no history of hurling in my, uh, family.

My father played football, played with Roscommon for a year or two, I think, and then was transferred in the guards to Dublin, then Kilkenny, and played here football, but there was no history of hurling.

But I remember as a youn- I must have been three maybe.

There was only two of us in the family, my sister Eileen and myself.

We're talking about a time where, you know, transport, communication, they weren't at the level that they're at now, obviously.