yeah share a little bit about it uh what you think about intimate partner betrayal trauma day and and this awareness day and what it means to you kind of how has it impacted you know your your profession there and what you do and um just kind of your heartfelt feeling

about this day i'm not sure that it's impacted you know myself or even my practice but for me that aware is awareness 365 actually um you know we have to have that awareness to understand the pain the depth of the pain that these people are going through not just women but men who have been betrayed also And a lot of times, it's funny, it's interesting you brought up this question, but this morning I was talking to a client and he'd been doing very well, but he's kind of in the mindset again of, well, when did she get over it? And again, in explaining to him, you know what? She's never gonna get over it.

She's gonna learn how to manage it.

You can learn how to manage herself.

But, you know, he said, but what does getting to the other side look like? Well, getting to the other side looks like, in my estimation, what I've seen from people is that, you know what? You're going to have many good days, but you know what? There's going to be a day to come where she's going to be hurting.

Things are, whether they're the trigger or she just starts getting, usually what overcomes them Michelle you correct me if I'm wrong anywhere and she may just share with you yeah it's a bad day she may not share anything with you regarding that but then she'll get through that hopefully she gets through it with you

The focus is healing.

You just touched upon a word that really just trying to be crazy, territorial.

As you were saying that, I was thinking about What would you say is maybe the strength of the connection between emotional dysregulation and relapse in somebody's recovery journey?

I think that is a wonderful question.

It's a wonderful question.

I think they are linked together.

Think about it.

Just think about it.

I want all clinicians who are listening to this to think about this also.

Well, you know, again,