Yeah.

And Dean, of course, being part of that.

We all grew up in the church, and I think we learned a lot from watching my father, um, being in the pulpit, you know, preaching what he believed in and all that.

I'm not trying to convert anybody here or anything like that, but, like, he was...

He had conviction.

And I was like, "Man, I wanna do that with rock and roll, except I want a bigger stage and more lights."

Wow.

So I was like, it, it...

I'm just curious, how does it feel when you hear your own song on the radio? I mean, I know you've heard all your songs a thousand times, but I'm just curious, how do you react to that?

You know, when it first happened, I would always listen because I would go, God, I could have sang that better or we could have played this better.

And then...

I've learned to kind of appreciate it and listen to it, just make sure it sounds decent on the radio.

And after that, if I hear a song on the radio, I usually turn it just because I know how it sounds.

Right, right.

It's not like something I, like the, it was exciting at first, but like I said, even when we put a new song out, if I hear it one time, I'll listen to it just to make sure the mix feels right.

got to get a couple albums into it before you're paying cash for the new copy, right? Yeah, people

This is, uh, Collective Soul, by the way, on the off chance that there's someone listening who does not know who Collective Soul is.

And all your weight, it falls on me.

A good long way to the luscious declaration.

Yours is yours and mine is mine.

And all your weight, it falls on me.

Don't scream alone, don't think aloud.

So she gathers strength, yeah, she gathers strength.

Yeah.