... understanding of that.

Sure.

So sure, as soon as you said as above, so below, like any of the Christians listening are like, "Oh, that's Satanic." Uh, it's a principle, and I really wanna g- make that known that principles are not good or evil, they just are, and it depends on how it's being used.

So, um, predictive programming, that is, and I'm sure your listeners know the definition, but I'll just give it quickly.

Predictive programming is this odd practice that the elites, whatever you wanna call them, the, you know, the Illuminati, the Club of Rome, the 13 families, y- I just call them the elites, that they seem to, to, this practice they have of essentially telling us or showing us what they're going to do before they do it, which seems counterintuitive because they're a very small group of people, very, very few of them, relatively speaking.

So their biggest weakness is the fact that there's far more of us than there are of them, and their biggest danger is, is the majority of people getting wise to what they're doing, and they, there's nothing they can physically do to stop us from stopping them.

So why do they do predictive programming? And I've heard a few explanations about it, none of which really resonate well.

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All the ancient cultures believed in the supernatural creation and they all had their creation myths.

So there was no atheism as we know it back then.

So he didn't need to convince them of that.

What he needed to do was contrast what they had heard from other cultures with the truth that he was giving them.

You know, they were in Egypt.

Egypt was the dominant world empire at that time.

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Now, are you saying this is another group of fallen angels, or is this somehow the angels get back there and then they get cast out again, or what are we talking about here?

Yeah, I think we're talking about a couple of incursions.

The first one, the first major incursion that we have explicitly in the Bible is Genesis 6. and that's when the a group of angels came down according to the pseudepigraphal book of enoch about 200 of them and they came and they married earth women they married human women they did not just have sex with them they married them and this is really important because they entered into a legal marriage covenant and when we talk about spiritual warfare i i'm going to emphasize the fact that everything in spiritual warfare everything in the spiritual realm is done through words Laws and covenants.

And that's what we teach during the spiritual warfare course.

So these fallen angels, they were using God's law against him.

They entered into a marriage covenant with these women to produce the Nephilim.

And so, you know, there's this idea that the reason the angels fell and had intercourse with women is because they just thought women were hot.

What are your thoughts on that?

people want you to be contentious because of that, like the listenership.

People really get into all that stuff, but 95% of the stuff we agree on, that's what we spend our time on.

We haven't spent one moment talking about that because we believe in the critical parts of Christianity, that Jesus died for your sins, according to the Scripture.

He rose again on the third day, according to the Scripture.

You are to go out and make disciples of all men and women, of all humanity.

That is the basic.

That is what's really out there.

Yep.

Mm-hmm.

You hear from God by being intentional.

You hear from God by leaning into God and blocking all the voice-- all the other voices out, because it is God's will, and this is what I had to learn, that God's will is for us to dwell with Him and for us to have an intimate relationship with Him.

That's what happens at the beginning of the book and at the end of the book.

We start with Eden.

We end with Eden.

What is-- what-- at the beginning of the book, we have the tree of life.

Mm.

Right.

And Jesus commended him, not for being dishonest, but he said, "You were shrewd.

You knew you were about to get fired.

You did, you did something to, to help yourself." And then Jesus says something that freaks people out, just I haven't understood and I'm still working through it.

Luke 16:9, he says that, um, basically, well, uh, that, that, um, you should make friend- sh- you should use unrighteous mammon to make friends so that when mammon, wealth, runs out, you will have f- d- you, you, you'll, they'll be able to give you reward in eternity.

And like, what is Jesus saying? How is he doing this? But what, what reason I'm bringing that up, we don't have time to go out into all of it 'cause I know we're wrap- need to wrap up, but Jesus called it mammon.

Mammon is a name of it, is, it is Aramaic for a spirit-

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

And you can't say, "Well, I'm gonna take-- I'm gonna isolate this word kingdom here and call the second coming," even though there is nothing in this passage where Jesus is talking about his second coming.

It is not prophetic.

Now, if he had said that in, say, Matthew 24, the Olivet Discourse, you could have that argument because Jesus is speaking prophetically in the Olivet Discourse.

But in, in, in Matthew, uh, 16, at the end, you know, those last, uh, 10, 11 verses, he is speaking about the Christian life and rewards.

So I, I-- it's, it's-- you can't take things out of context if you wanna do proper hermeneutics.

But, um, so let's talk a little about Tataria because that's one of the, one of the ace in the holes that I, I get.

Yeah, go ahead.

Mm.

After Genesis 2, God no longer initiates his will unilaterally.

Everything he does after that is in response to what we do, to what the Elohim do, and he reacts through justice.

He said, "Adam, you are the f- Adam and Eve, you're the first cause now." Adam a- and Eve had authority over the spiritual re- over the spiritual realm on Earth.

So i- in the Garden wh- when, when the nahash, the so-called serpent, was there talking to Eve, Adam could've said, "Nahash, get out of here," and he would've had to obey.

He didn't.

He, you know, he failed in that sense, but he could've done it.

So that's what we wanna understand that.

Right.

Or when a p- a pitcher, a pitcher is, is, is, um, is pitching a no-hitter.

They're in a theta state.

S- s- that state where you are toggling between your conscious and your unconscious.

It's that.

So that's what flow is.

That's what John talks about all the time.

I could be wrong, but...

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Yeah.

Let me bring up something that's really important in, in the Spiritual Warfare course, just to let you know how it's laid out.

So it's, it's 12 months.

It's an intensive 12-month weekly course.

There's like 48 lessons, and I have it split into like four sections or four quarters.

The first quarter, the first three months is defense.

No, you're good.

Uh, what was the promo code again? We had, uh-

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If you do that, then you get seven days, um, of, you can get the first month.

You can have access to it for seven days.

If you li- if you like it, great.

If you don't like it, uh, then if you, if you just like being attacked by demons, then go ahead and cancel and you won't be charged a, a dime.

Mm

You've got to borrow from the enemy for your point here.

Right.

And the whole thing with hidden history is you can't prove it.

I mean, when you ask them, okay, how do we know history is hidden? Well, because it's not there.

Well, that's circular logic.

It's like me going to my insurance company and saying, hey, someone stole my Ferrari out of my driveway, so you guys need to pay for me to get another Ferrari.

And they ask me, okay, well, what's your evidence that your Ferrari was stolen? Because it's not in my driveway.

And

And it's like, how could you accurately strike your opponent? How could you use this weapon accurately or at all when you're over bloated? It's so

funny because...

Because I know you guys have been talking about, especially you, Tom, have been talking about the Orthodox Church stuff like the past couple of months.

I know that's been kind of- Oh, I've left it alone.

No, I get it.

But my point with that is that we have the wrong definition of what church is.

Church is not a building.

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Amen.

Yeah, so what we do in our course, we started out...

Uh, I think I've talked about this before.

So it's in, like, it's, it's in four sections, four quarters for three months.

The first three months, which, which we just wrapped up, is defense.

We're teaching you, you know, how to defend yourself with, uh, the last, um, post I put up.

Uh, the, the last lesson was on the armor of God.

So can you just start from the s- from the beginning? His, that premise is, is the, the focal point of where you think he's getting this wrong, and then e- extrapolating from there, it all goes downhill.

Mm.

So it, because the Bible is correct, meaning that if you see a contradiction or a conflict, the Bible, you don't need to change the Bible.

You need to change your premise.

For, for example, you know, when an atheist comes in who wants to disprove the Bible, they have a premise.

Their premise is that there's no God.

There's no supernatural creator.

That, you know, the world just came into existence, the universe came to existence by accident, you know.

Hmm.