like?

Look, I loved it.

There was a cliche that would often go on around there, which was like, it's not a great place to be at, but it's a great place to be from.

I liked Annapolis.

being there.

I really did.

Even my freshman year where you're kind of treated like shit and by the upper class and there's all these...

right

know, as far back as you want to go, like How'd you get started? What led you to, you know, the U S Naval Academy, what led you to private protection, you know, you know, to, to, to write in the book, what led up to that?

I think, uh, I'll go way, way back.

I think a lot of my path in life was just born into me.

I just don't think we're born blank slates.

We have certain inclinations that we're drawn to and interests.

And at an early age, um, It's like one thing leads to another.

As a teenager, I grew up on the East Coast, up and down the East Coast.

So I'm going to just throw that open to you for your thoughts on that.

He

says to go it alone.

He says to go it alone.

And he's called it, when he was doing it, the terrible freedom, the terrible freedom of going your own.

And his brother was like, he's falling apart.

Because it's the primal nature of us.

You're not with the tribe.

Yeah,

Yeah

... and, and you know, when you're in the military, you are government property, baby.

[laughs] And so you're there, you're gonna do, and I get it, but you're gonna do what is best for the Marine Corps.

Um, so I decided to do what's best for me.

And, uh, ultimately I had to make a decision, uh, and ask myself a fundamental question: What do I want? What do I want to do? And I think a lot of veterans have, uh, this challenge about, you know, everything is paid for you when you're in the military, everything's provided, and then all of a sudden you're on your own.

And eventually, um, you know, while maybe peers of mine were going off to, you know, get their MBA and things like that, I just had to follow my heart and say, "What do I love?" And I always loved history.

You know, by the time I got into college, I was a history major at the academy, and I just read, read, read.

Yeah.

gold.

Yep.

They're at the Mecca.

And so, yeah, it's weird.

I'll like small.

My world can be sometimes.

And they, they, They told me like the last three weeks, it's been like nonstop.

I had this