Just relief or much more than that?

I'll try and talk you through the whole thing, but Beijing was great, you know, four years prior.

And at the age of 23, you sort of think you have everything you ever wanted.

You know, you've achieved this dream.

You're an Olympic gold medalist.

You were 23 years old and There's no such thing as an easy win in the Olympics, but we turned up with this big marginal gains package.

We have the best bikes, we have the best skin suits, we have the best helmets.

Can you describe how you felt then in the same emotional kind of way? I

But I wonder how much that set you up for the success, you know, the resilience you had to build as a young child helped you later on in life.

Yeah, so just for the listeners, I mean, I was born in Barnsley.

It's like 1985.

I started life there.

I don't want to pretend that I had the worst upbringing.

It was difficult.

Parents divorced when I was four or five years old.

know,

But

for years now, the church in Nigeria has said it's not Boko Haram, that there are other actors causing harm against Christians, communities, abductions, and obviously killings.

And about five years ago, we kept hearing Fulani.

We kept hearing that the Fulani herdsmen And this is under Buhari, the previous president of Nigeria.

Now, President Buhari was himself a member of the Fulani tribe.

And we had some people warning us that there were a lot of things going on to put Fulani in power.

And they were using their power to try to gain territory.

Could you also help us see that it's not just about slaughter and attack? We're looking at mass abductions as well.