So what made you is what is your first board game that you designed?

So the very first, and this is a good example of I've been all over the place.

My very first one was in the Great Campaigns of the American Civil War series.

And Joe Balkoski started that.

And that's, again, where the key thing is maps.

The maps for that series are gorgeous.

The artwork there is done by a friend of mine, a close friend of mine now, Charlie Kibler.

That is a