What do you remember? What was happening in your mind and in your chest? [laughs]

Yeah, that was not easy.

[laughs] It wasn't an easy moment.

I think sitting there and not being able to influence or to affect a decision, I think that's probably the hardest thing.

So there was a lot of just waiting around and, and thinking, "Wow, is this really gonna be how it goes?" But then I've always, as I said, I've got that faith and that belief that maybe it's, it's just how I think.

I'm, I try to be as optimistic as I can be, and there was a belief that, no, it's gonna be all right.

It's gonna be all right, whatever way it goes.

... tweeting that out, what would you tell him? And what would that kid think of you now?

Just talk to me about how you've reflected on that game.

I think it's...

Yeah, it was a game full of emotions, full of everything.

And, um, you can sort of look past things and not see it for what it is, but it's, it's insane.

To go through to, to win a game of football, it's never easy.

Of course, there's things that we could improve on, things we can do better.

Um, but ultimately, we, we won, and that's the main thing.

Anyone, yeah.

Got a picture.

[laughs] Yeah.

Like, achieving what you set out to achieve, um, and having the experience of going through what it takes in order to do that, I feel like it definitely gives you confidence.

Definitely gives, as an individual, gives you confidence, and then to look around at players, um, who have had the same experiences, gone through the same stuff and, um, again, yeah, just achieve what they set out to achieve is, is powerful, man.

And when you put that together, I think it gives yourself and your team a good chance.

Because many of us are trying to maintain our education and also trying to build a career while also having maybe a part-time job, what mindsets or habits have helped you in the past to get to where you are?

I would say, I would say, again, in line with that, is being passionate.

I feel like passion allows you to...

Are you putting too much pressure on yourselves, then?

I wouldn't say so.

I'd say it's the necessary pressure to win.

You know what's at stake.

You know what's in front of you, and we've got an opportunity to do something incredible, and it's, it's not, it's not negative.

This is a beautiful, beautiful position that we're in, and to be able to achieve something that the club hasn't achieved in how long? So this ain't-

How have you found bringing that to Arsenal, where it's like win, win, win?

For me, I, I feel the same.