yeah

and then um then we got jam and i came in one day so i got this idea for a kind of a bluesy like you know r b kind of thing then we uh put together a long black cadillac And I didn't know Donnie that well, but Donnie had some ideas for lyrics and all that.

I said, okay.

So, and then he, then the next practice he comes in, you know, I remember Donnie's married.

Okay.

Been married for a long time.

I'm just a little more free form in my attitude with life, et cetera.

it yeah it is you know and

So how did The Tribes come about?

Tribes, I was thinking about this before I called in.

Tribes really came about because of COVID.

I mean, it's ironic, but that's what happened.

Because I'm originally from Hamilton, Ontario, but I've been living in Ajax, which is on the east side of Toronto, for the last 30, 35 years.

But when the COVID shut down everything, and I was in between, I had a lot of things up in the air.

I ended up going back to Hamilton.

um the name yeah the name okay so you know you got these songs together covid is happening and you find out okay well this is working how did the name come about