Okay.

And I worked really hard to try and, um, see things differently.

Like, I would stand on a street corner for two hours with my camera and just, like, try and take pictures.

And I think in the moment, it felt like I wasn't making anything good, and then when I look back at my photos now, it's been quite a few years, I feel like I've come away with stuff that I really like.

And I wouldn't have gotten those photos if I didn't work so hard, so.

That is wild.

Since then, since then I've had a bit of a relationship with them, and this, eh, yeah, I love this picture.

[laughs] Um, yeah, since then I've had a bit of a relationship with them, and they've been so kind, and they're amazing.