What lessons did you take? Like, how do you see how to change the world affected by that documentary?

There is no how to change the world and there's no actually world within, which is our company, without Hell and Believe.

And in a very specifically practical, direct way.

We were shooting that film, and we were doing the coda.

This was after the Olympics.

The story was over.

And we were shooting kind of the ending resolution in Greece on the island of Lesbos, but very far to the east of Lesbos.

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What was the, the moment, the inflection point for you going from kind of the Hollywood route to let's maybe do something even more purposeful and, and crazier than, than you had imagined with your life?

I was trying to be a writer.

I wanted to be a television writer.

And when I stopped working for Rob, I had co-created and co-written a graphic novel that got me my first job writing a pilot for Sony.

Then I got staffed on a series, and it was such an awful experience that I was like, "I can-- If this is the dream, I don't want the dream." So I was like, "I need to write my way into a better situation." And I grew up wrestling.

It was a sport that helped me get into college, where I found filmmaking.

So I was like, "I know this story in wrestling.

What was high-low buffalo for you for How to Change the World?