Was there, like, an, [clears throat] a moment when you really, really got in, interested in, in specifically tech?

Yes.

[clears throat] So basically always had this, uh, I think the sciences were, were always really, really interesting to me, so how stars work, how, uh, electricity works, how, how all of that works.

And that really comes together in inside of a computer, uh, where it always felt so magic that by just typing, uh, some words on, on, on your keyboard, you could create something en- entirely, entirely new.

Like, the entire philosophy of, uh, being able to will something into being.

Like, you can just think of it, and you can make it.

And on the computer, that's...

Yeah.