Yeah.

10 years old, out of School of Rock camp, like the movie school, that's like a real thing that they do.

And we met in a Foo Fighters versus Nirvana camp where we were like learning to cover their songs.

And during a lunch one day, we went into the practice space to like jam some songs randomly.

And I was playing the guitar riff to Secrets by State Champs.

And he was behind the drum kit.

And I was playing it on a whim for fun because I had just discovered that band.

three kind of three four or five years look like for you as a band? like realistically what would you like to achieve like within kind of the short medium term?