He's always there.

Yeah.

Uh, so we had kind of talked about this a couple of times, and then it probably started, I'd say, like 18 months ago, the original conversation, and then maybe a year ago, I actually met Neil coming back from Augusta, and we were talking about a couple of things, and then shortly after that, he kind of texted me and said, um, you know, "Let's catch up and, and have a chat about doing the rankings." Um, so it started from there.

We got a little bit of data.

Um, I put together some kind of, like, very, very high level initial approach to it.

Then Mark Wherley came in, uh, to the conversation, and kind of between the three of us, sort of developed from there.

We, yeah, we were just putting together, um, updated rankings occasionally, catching up, and then probably the last six months we've had a couple of, um, a bit more detailed conversations about, like, I would actually lay out, okay, this is how it looks now, this is how it would have looked a year ago.

Mm