Mm-hmm.

Which, uh, and he liked, he was singing country songs mostly then.

And, uh, you know, I'm eight years older than Keith, so, uh, when Keith was born, I was eight years old.

And, uh, by the time he was two he was trying to play the guitar and, uh, he was already singing, and he was doing country.

My mother had a lot of, uh, Hank Williams records, things like that, and that's basically what he sang.

However, my grandfather was a banjo player, and he was teaching me a little bit on a homemade banjo, and finally I got a... before about Kay opened back, about the year Keith was born.

Oh, man.

And so then Roy Lee's son got the guitar and, and kept it for many years, and he finally sold it to Pondit.