how to act, how to ask the question, how to care.

And you've had those educators in which you remember not to.

Yeah.

and and not to be like and you know whether you like that or not it's just it's it's real life uh and going back to that you know i go through i get my math degree i get to the end of it and you know i had a buddy of mine who who who worked for a an organization out in texas who had said hey come out and be a mathematician there's a whole wing there's a whole building you know they have nothing but mathematicians that do this all day long and um He's like, I'm an engineer, so the engineers make the problems and the mathematicians are going to solve it.

And I think back to that and I go, you know, sometimes I kick myself and go, why didn't I go into that? You know, why didn't I go down that road? Because I think, you know, economically in our life, I think it would have been totally different.

My wife was really, you know, my girlfriend slash turning into my fiancé at that time.

And so...

able to address more problems now than he would so over his career and where do you see that we could utilize that even at an elementary middle and high school level rather than go oh that's well and good for senior adult education but just leave it out of the classroom do you think that's the right approach