It just hasn't been kind of what you thought with all the firepower they have.

I coined a phrase with the Sharks earlier in the year, last four or five games ago, talking about they've got make-a-play-itis, which is they feel they have to make a play all the time.

Coming into the zone, they want to make that 60-foot pass across and...

You know, the bat behind the back, no looker to the slot where a slam dunk goal that they feel that they have to make a play.

And Ryan Warsawski is trying to get them to understand that.

No, you don't.

You don't have to make a play.

yep

It just hasn't been kind of what you thought with all the firepower they have.

I coined a phrase with the Sharks earlier in the year, last four or five games ago, talking about they've got make-a-play-itis, which is they feel they have to make a play all the time.

Coming into the zone, they want to make that 60-foot pass across and...

You know, the bat behind the back, no looker to the slot where a slam dunk goal that they feel that they have to make a play.

And Ryan Warsawski is trying to get them to understand that.

No, you don't.

You don't have to make a play.

yep

Is there something that you see that you go, wow, that's new?

He's been better with the media.

Better as far as...

Understanding that as captain of the San Jose Sharks, and of course his notoriety that he gained last year, that the responsibility to talk to the media was going to be something that was heaped upon him more and more.

And he's been really good in that regard.

He's 20 years old.

Last year before he went to the Olympics, we did an interview on NBC Sports California.

Is it just simply goaltending or are there other areas you think you could see some improvement here with regards to not only what they have but what they could add?

Yeah

... really smart.

The thing about Logan is that that injury, it not only, you know, physically broke him, but emotionally it did.

He loved and loves being with this team.

He loved being captain of the San Jose Sharks.

He loved growing up as a San Jose Sharks, Shark.

And it, it absolutely, you could tell it broke his heart when he had to make the decision of walking away from the game because his body betrayed him.

Hmm

Mm.

He loved being captain of the San Jose Sharks.

He loved growing up as a San Jose Sharks, Shark.

And it, it absolutely, you could tell it broke his heart when he had to make the decision of walking away from the game because his body betrayed him.

And I don't know, guys, if he's recovered from that emotionally.

We have, we didn't see him around a lot.

When he was trying to rehab, we saw him all the time, of course, but he'd get out of the way of the guys because he's Logan and he's so unselfish.

Yeah.

But in that deal, it's like how much are you giving up in a rebuilding team to bring Connor Hellebuck in? So that's my question to you is how much could this make sense with what Winnipeg will want back?

There are question marks about the Sharks goaltenders with Yaroslav Askarov and Alex Nedeljkovic and Comrie has been brought in too.

But with Yaroslav Askarov, they're the guy that they, he's the guy that they, hockey ops thinks is the guy to lead this team.

But last year he had a really great November and everybody's going, is that very a C? And then after that, he was very up and down.

And you look at both Nedeljkovic and Askarov's numbers.

They're not through the roof, but ask Ross only 24 years old.

He, he has played 60 some games in the national hockey.

Drew, do you think that impacts any likelihood of them signing an extension before then or wait it out until they hit free agency? Because, uh, that's a nice max salary of into the, Oh, $25 million a year range for those two.

Drew, what were you thinking about when the news broke last night that Barry Melrose had died at the age of 70?

Well, it's sad news, without a doubt.

And I thought you brought up an appointment saying he was the Don Cherry of hockey in America.

This is a guy from Kelvington, Saskatchewan, who was a good player at 300 games, as you mentioned, but also an outstanding coach.

He led Medicine Hat to a Memorial Cup.

He led, I can't remember who it was, to a Calder Trophy, an AHL championship trophy.

His next job, and then went to L.A. and took him to, it was Adirondack.

He was, that clip I played, that was Charles Barkley who was calling him the best analyst in sports, Drew.

I just, I, I don't understand out of all the players to help your penalty kill, he's the guy you choose who was mediocre in Switzerland.

Yeah, it's interesting, isn't it, on, on that one? That it, you know, we know that, we know the situation.

Um, all those five players were acquitted.

Um, you and I have broken that case down ad nauseam, and we all decided, and I think rightfully so, that these were less than, um, they were morally bankrupt young men.

But unfortunately, the, well, fortunately or unfortunately, it's, it's, it's really up to anybody who wants to judge it and see what, see what they, or believe what they believe.

The fact that, um, after the suspension was lifted by the NHL, Carter Hart, Dylan Dube just got signed by St. Louis, and then now Alex Formington, that this is within the NHL's right to, or the NHL team's right to go sign these guys.

But, um, I'm looking at the Edmonton Oilers right now, and the only, uh, the only thing that I'm looking at is that they just keep adding players and adding players and adding players that they hope somehow will be able to fit into those third and fourth line roles to play some defense and be, as you said, kill penalties.

We'll see what happens." Um, do you think Quinn Hughes will be traded this season again, or will they go the distance and lose him in free agency? Or do, maybe you actually believe he'll stay in Minnesota and not just sign with the New Jersey Devils.

But now that it's been recalibrated, will Conor McDavid pass Cale McCarr, or do you think Conor will again take a discount to win?

Knowing a little bit about Conor and talking to him for five years and having him in the league and getting a chance, he wants one thing.

He wants to win championships.

He wants to be known as a champion.

He wants to win the Stanley Cup.

Me and predictions, you know how much I love them.

I would have a hard time believing that Conor will max out as much as he can to the top of his salary cap in order to continue playing.

But you've listened to me long enough to know how I feel about players signing deals with no trade clause and then... especially Brady giving, you can only trade me to one team, but what do you think this means for Kevin Sheveldayoff's next few weeks? Or do you think he's just going to be like, no, we'll trade you when we get the deal we like, and if you want to come play, come play, but if not, stay home?

What did you

think? I thought, thank you, Mr.

Plattner, the Sharks' owner, Hassell Plattner.

He has made the commitment to this team, and I thought, well, okay, highest paid guy in the National Hockey League.

I thought when you were away and I was filling in for you poorly, I thought for sure that Macklin was going to take like a Connor-type deal, a Sid-type deal, and really allow the team to surround themselves with a lot of talent.

But he still does have a lot of talent on that team, and they're up and coming.

Mike Greer said yesterday he was really pleased with the contract.

How different is a radio call to a TV call on what I think is the mistake being made in Columbus to just replay TV on the radio?

Arbitration, but don't show up.

Right.

So let your agent handle that.

Because...

I don't care what you say and who you are and how tough you are mentally.

You're not going to get over your team talking crap about you.

Because what happens, and Dean Lombardi, the former general manager of San Jose Sharks, Stanley Cup champion two times with the LA Kings, he was the guy that told me about it.

So you go

But I like that he is coming to San Jose with not quite the microscope that exists, but also I think he understands the situation he's coming into where this franchise can take huge leaps.

He does.

I was in Edmonton on my exile from the San Jose Sharks for five years.

And I was broadcasting those games.

Those were the first few years of Darnell's career.

I would say that Darnell and I are friends.

I talked to him yesterday.

So he's clearly got a

Mm-hmm.

And he says, "I just thought it was time." And he originally wanted to go to the East.

People may not know that his uncle is Donovan McNabb, the late, the, uh, former quarterback for the Philadelphia Eagles, terrific quarterback.

That's his uncle.

He was wanting to go to Philadelphia.

He has some experience there, or some living experience there.

Um, then he thought Pittsburgh and Boston.

Yeah

Where do you want to start? Because we have a lot to get to.

Well, the draft was, well, they've had a very good, what, six, seven, eight days.

The draft was very, very good.

They go with Stenberg, which is the right move to make.

I liked what Mike said to our friend Dan Rusanowski before the draft is when you start trying to make deals with the draft, you, for maybe different players and trade down things like that, you get yourself into some serious trouble and you leave a lot of talent on the, on the table.

So I liked that they just went straight ahead.

They had Keaton Verhoff that, they had rated highly at one time.

Yeah, that's how

What was Carolina doing so well, so consistently last night for that 4-2 win?

They were all moving at the same time.

It was really, it was kind of a revertical of fortune to start a flip of the script, if you will, because Vegas finally had a good start, had a really good start.

Outshot, outchance, fantastic job to start the game, and they had been wanting to do that.

Busty played very well to start things off, but after that, Carolina just, everybody, they were so physical.

You know, you and I text each other, it was one of the most, it was the most physical game of the final, one of the most physical games in the playoffs.

and it was hard checking, and they were checking.

What do you think of one of the most talked about, debated, some in Edmonton downright despise Darnell Nurse, not the person but the defenseman, on where his future is in the National Hockey League?

I was like, who? Bussie, who? What has happened to the defense? What has happened to the goaltending in this series? Just what the hell is going on here, Drew?

I thought going into this series that this was going to be just a series where you're going to have to take as much caffeine as possible and be able to stay awake to watch it because both these teams played such good defensive hockey.

Both these goaltenders were playing, as you just mentioned, out of their minds that it was going to be 2-1 games.

So far, we've had two games that have nine goals.

Yeah.

One game that's had seven goals and one game that's had eight goals.

Yes.

your phone was missing.

I was like, who? Bussie, who? What has happened to the defense? What has happened to the goaltending in this series? Just what the hell is going on here, Drew?

I thought going into this series that this was going to be just a series where you're going to have to take as much caffeine as possible and be able to stay awake to watch it because both these teams played such good defensive hockey.

Both these goaltenders were playing, as you just mentioned, out of their minds that it was going to be 2-1 games.

So far, we've had two games that have nine goals.

Yeah.

One game that's had seven goals and one game that's had eight goals.

Yes.

your phone was missing.

must not have been that big of a deal.

Well, the NHLPA on this go-around has requested an investigation.

They're the ones that have spurned this and wanted an investigation.

There are some rumors now coming out, Frank Cervelli said it on I think it was Bob Stauffer's show, that there's more things that are coming out now or that need to be investigated now as this is coming to the forefront, more than just the phone, looking at the phone.

Listen, I will tell you, and I've said this before, I've known Mike for a long time, so I will tell you that why he was doing the phone stuff and all that stuff, I've given you my explanation of how we do that with each other, send pictures back and forth.

But with the players in that situation, we talked about it last time, it is an invasion of privacy and he shouldn't have done it.

As far as whatever else goes, you know, the Chileos thing, the Franson thing, Chris Osgood, on and on and on it goes with Mike when he was in Detroit.

How good is this series? Game three, the second most watched NHL Stanley Cup final game in the United States.

Drew weighed in.

Well, I think when you talked about the first thing that you were 100% right on was the fact of when you're talking about a detailed guy.

And I think I told you this, Jamie, that when I was going back to the Sharks and when Mike was coaching here at the University of Saskatchewan when we came back before we went to Columbus, I've known Mike since we were teenagers.

So I called him and said, hey, are you watching video? Are you doing anything like that? And he went, as a matter of fact, we are.

We're at the rink.

You want to come down? We're going to watch it this time.

So I started going in every day to watch video with him.

number.

So, Drew, Mike Babcock in Edmonton, potentially.

Yeah.

Thoughts? I heard you guys talking about that.

Well, I think when you talked about the first thing that you were 100% right on was the fact of when you're talking about a detailed guy.

And I think I told you this, Jamie, that when I was going back to the Sharks and when Mike was coaching here at the University of Saskatchewan when we came back before we went to Columbus, I've known Mike since we were teenagers.

So I called him and said, hey, are you watching video? Are you doing anything like that? And he went, as a matter of fact, we are.

We're at the rink.

had a

Jalen is pretty

bad.

I was complaining more than anybody, and my kids were laughing at me, Davis, laughing at me for being an old man yelling at the clouds.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, we know, old man.

Everything was tougher back in your day.

But then I brought up, yeah, but the NHL is the same.

Guys flopping all over the place in the NHL, too.

before

is pretty

bad.

I was complaining more than anybody, and my kids were laughing at me, Davis, laughing at me for being an old man yelling at the clouds.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, we know, old man.

Everything was tougher back in your day.

But then I brought up, yeah, but the NHL is the same.

Guys flopping all over the place in the NHL, too.

Stay

Drew Remendez, our NHL analyst, had a chat with him and what he saw play out last night with Vegas' 5-4 win over Carolina in Game 1.

Well, I thought the...

The interesting part is the game started, obviously, was the quick start by the Carolina Hurricanes and the Kauai Ealers.

But at the same time, and you guys have already talked about that, the TV timeout, John Turrell talks to his guys.

And it's a very upbeat talk.

It's just a simple fact of, guys, we know how we have to play against this team, and East-West isn't the way to go.

You've got to be direct.

So then what?

But, Drew, what do you

think? Well, I thought the interesting part as the game started, obviously, was the quick start by the Carolina Hurricanes and the Kauai Ealers.

But at the same time, and you guys have already talked about that, the TV timeout, John Turrell talks to his guys.

And it's a very upbeat talk.

It's just a simple fact of guys – We know how we have to play against this team, and East-West isn't the way to go.

You've got to be direct.

You've got to get pucks behind.

So then what?

In your expert opinion, how do these two teams match up against each other?

Well, I think the first thing you look at for me is the defensive zone, how different these two teams play.

Carolina plays a heavy man-on-man pressure.

Vegas plays their They take care of the center.

They play kind of a zone.

They take care of the middle of the ice.

The center does all the work.

Why are we losing to Norway? Can you answer that question?