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Drew Ayers
Professor of Film and Director of the Film Program at Eastern Washington University, author of Spectacular Posthumanism (2019) and Action Bodies (UT Press, 2026).
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Oct 18, 2026
Action Bodies: VFX, Identity, and Embodiment in Blockbuster Cinema with Drew Ayers (U Texas Press, 2026)
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10:05Drew AyersGUEST
So when you really like in the 90s, there's this era where the CGI is relatively new, and it's very noticeable.
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10:17Drew AyersGUEST
I remember reading all these articles about, oh, the cape is using all this CGI.
28 MINS LATER

Cory BarkerHOST
But how are these different kinds of characters, you know, hybridized using all these different forms of technology and... what are maybe some of the differences between like the alien or sorry, the animal characters versus some of these, you know, robots, aliens kind of quasi human humanoid figures.
Action Bodies: VFX, Identity, and Embodiment in Blockbuster Cinema with Drew Ayers (U Texas Press, 2026)
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Cory BarkerHOST
But how are these different kinds of characters, you know, hybridized using all these different forms of technology? And why? what are maybe some of the differences between like the alien or sorry, the animal characters versus some of these, you know, robots, aliens kind of quasi human humanoid figures.
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35:49Drew AyersGUEST
And so I was, especially in the third one where Halle Berry as her two kind of attack dogs, it's a great action sequence.
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35:58Drew AyersGUEST
And for me, it was that kind of like collaboration between animals and people and, And that kind of triggers what about animal action stars? Can we can that exist? And then for me, there was a it was a fundamentally different question, because I think as viewers, we assume the animals aren't real, or at least I mean, they're highly trained.
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36:17Drew AyersGUEST
there's a different expectation of authenticity and realism than with the human action stars.

Cory BarkerHOST
Just, you know, what's your sort of perspective and what did you, how did your thinking evolve related to AI in these action films?
Action Bodies: VFX, Identity, and Embodiment in Blockbuster Cinema with Drew Ayers (U Texas Press, 2026)
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8:09Drew AyersGUEST
So we really like in the 90s, there's this era where the CGI is relatively new, and it's very noticeable.
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8:21Drew AyersGUEST
I remember reading all these articles about, oh, the cape is using all this CGI.
26 MINS LATER

Cory BarkerHOST
But how are these different kinds of characters, you know, hybridized using all these different forms of technology and... what are maybe some of the differences between like the alien or sorry, the animal characters versus some of these, you know, robots, aliens kind of quasi human humanoid figures.
Action Bodies: VFX, Identity, and Embodiment in Blockbuster Cinema with Drew Ayers (U Texas Press, 2026)
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Cory BarkerHOST
about how top gun maverick was promoted and you mentioned a little bit ago but can you walk us through you know how that film was promoted and why that is such a reflective example of the different ways that studios are either highlighting or minimizing in slightly different ways their use of vfx strategies
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22:25Drew AyersGUEST
There's this perception that audiences no longer want things that look fake, for lack of a better word.
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Cory BarkerHOST
Just, you know, what's your sort of perspective and what did you, how did your thinking evolve related to AI in these action films?