Does compassionate care cut it? And when they're in that environment, can you have reasonable conversations with them?

Well, I think you said it well.

People need to feel themselves and feel their bodies.

And they're not going to do that unless they continue to use.

And we had this debate in my family because I have a number of people that are addicted in one form or another.

and we had a conversation about jail and i said you know i know jail is not the answer i i mean there's a you know everything has a place and everything you know represents itself can represent itself as a tool and jail is one of those things because you're not gonna be able to talk to my brother until you get him to a point where he you can actually talk to him in a rational way and he can actually start to understand you because they gets into this cycle and it's very, very difficult to get them out.

And I've talked to families, endless families that, you know, they they want to get their kids off the street.

What do we need to do from a policing enforcement and barrier perspective to curtail that flow of drugs? And what part of the equation does it play?