But how how bullish or confident are you that if this happens, that you can scale up relatively quickly?

Well, there's a couple things to consider there, Brian.

You have the brownfield and opportunities that are being expanded in and around the brownfield areas.

Chevron is doing an excellent job down there.

They have for 100 years or so, as you know, with Mike Wirth and the Chevron team.

And as they look to expand, they're developing within their existing fields and then bolting on.

What we're actually doing is going into a greenfield area that doesn't have any production at all.

But how bullish or confident are you that if this happens, that you can scale up relatively quickly?

Um, maybe could just give us a little bit of background on how you got to where you are today.

Sure.

Happy to do it, Ben.

Thank you for having me.

Lloyd, John, good to see you guys and, uh, happy to be on the podcast.

So, um, as you'd mentioned, Ben, I've been in the industry for, I guess, about 38 years now.

Uh, started with Kerr-McGee Corporation after I got my, uh, uh, petroleum engineering degree from the Colorado School of Mines in 1988.

Where did it, in your mind, where did it start going wrong, right? Where-- W-was it, uh, the board? Was it leadership? Was it, you know, a framework of investing that was just wrong from the beginning? How do you think about that?