At the end of the 16 years, what was different than, than at the beginning of the 16 years?

Um, well, I guess just not n- You know, I, I was introduced to the field.

I have a sister that has...

She started out working for a company called Vantage when she was a Girl Scout.

She volunteered.

Um, she would actually bring...

And, you know, way back then, we're talking like the '70s, they were, a lot of them were institutionalized, and so they didn't have family, some of them.

... is it, is it keeping up with like the lesson plan and what's due next week? That kind of involved or the relationship with the team?