Any thoughts on that specifically?

Yeah.

I, I, I think there's two things that kind of are coming to my mind.

First, around the, the kind of showing pornography that you mentioned.

You know, I, I think especially when a chi-- when, when, um, a boy is in their early teens, uh, preteen years where they're deve-- you know, they're, they're starting to go through puberty, that can be, uh, a f-- um, kind of, um, a way in, if, if you can call it that, for the perpetrator in terms of, you know, "Here, let me show you pornography.

Let me teach you kinda how to engage with yourself sexually." And the child is, in that case, is not realizing that, you know, they're being groomed.

They almost think that they are-- they've been given an opportunity to be able to explore their sexuality with someone who is perhaps more experienced.

Mm-hmm