Mm-hmm.

You know? And, and I fluked out in a computer programming class and did very well.

I was getting like nineties, which I wasn't a nineties student.

And I was like, "Hey, this is something I'm good at.

I should just go for it." And I went for it and it was good, and then I went to college and I realized that everyone in computer programming, you're not just competing with the guys in your class, who were all super smart, competing with everyone in the world that's super smart.

That is Donny Spara from the episode Landing Tricks and Jobs at the Skate Park.

So like, my family has a, has a farm, and I grew up around like, you know, working with my hands my whole life, but never like welding in particular.

I probably saw it like once or twice when I was a little kid.