What, what happened there, and is that a common thing?

Not common, but if, uh, as Emma's alluded to, there are people who are in a cycle of poverty who don't know how to get, uh, out of it and, um, might be visiting multi-centers and different food banks and, um, overusing the system.

And we've been very lucky that we've built up relationships with other independent food, um, parcel suppliers who we have conversations with, and we are aware of people who might try to, um- Abuse is the wrong word, but, um, o- te- overuse the system.

And, you know, as you've just said, if you're living on a limited income and you've been fortunate enough to receive some support, that's helped you this week, so next week you might think, "Well, I'll try somewhere else to see if I can get that help." But that's not helping them because that's getting them into a cycle of, yeah, being dependent-

Sports.

But they're brand-new, so...

And again, we've been very lucky because we've had a, um, a district grant as well, so we...

That fulfilled that because it's a means of poverty and, you know, child and maternal health, isn't it? Because it's about wellbeing as well.