Um, actually, speaking of you guys being the total opposite of hacks, one question that I was always curious about was how do you delineate between a Fantastic Cat song and a song for your own projects? Because all of you have your own projects.

Um, it's basically, it comes down to, uh, what songs we're willing to, uh, uh, you know, l- let sit trial for one another.

Uh, 'cause Fantastic Cat is sort of a true democracy.

So we do, we do function as everybody gets their hands on every song.

Some songs kinda come in as a s- as an, a solo effort, and then they are, you know, everybody kinda gives their notes, and other things are kinda cooked up all together.

Little Wichita Lineman nod there.

Yeah, we all, we're all, we're all looking for things that are bigger than, than us, and that's just sort of, like, keeping it simple.

And I also wanted it to be a song that the band...