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... uh, in that process, and you have an inc- an incredible, colorful interpretation of a place that warrants one's own interpretation of what that is.

And, uh, dark rides are really their best when they put you into a place.

Um, they sometimes aren't their best when they try to tell a linear story.

Um, so I think that especially Alice, as a collection of environments that don't worry too hard about how you get from one place to the next, makes for the perfect dark ride experience.

Mm.

Those are interesting, but it's being allowed to inhabit-a project for whatever amount of time it takes and getting to add your two cents to it in a collaborative way so that other people are adding their two cents and it's adding up to something that any one individual could never have imagined or produced, that's wonderful.

So I hope my future, whatever I have of it, will be more of that.