Dominic, is that the same, uh, up in the north? What's changed? What's different?

Communities here predominantly are pastoralists, uh, who rely on livestock, their livestock, large trucks of livestock and small shambas, uh, where they coexist with wildlife or wildlife roam together with the communities.

So for, for us, what has been, like, the challenges are there, but what has been, like, the w- for us working with the community to bring out the coexistence, we've ...

In order, like, to, to...

This one to go in, in conjunction with communities like wildlife conservation and communities.

We ended up, uh, trying to understand this human wildlife conflict by going back to the communities, having barazas with them, talking wi-with them, sharing lived experiences.

I know they have been on the land for quite a long period.

Are there solutions that have worked best in the north? Could you give us one example or two and why the communities have embraced some of these solutions very strongly?