If you live-

Like, so it's almost like, um, like a co- like owning a condo.

You own a piece of that little, that, that part that's yours.

But you also share the entire piece of land with the other people that have houses on it.

I get it.

It's nothing to knock.

I would've...

Yeah

[laughs]

I don't know.

And so anyway, um, there was this whole big thing.

So Dorinda was saying a speech at the end of the party.

She hosted us in her beautiful home.

She made it nice, as she does, and you know, every- she was like, there was fireworks at the end, as you saw, but leading up to the fireworks Dorinda was giving like a speech, the end of the night speech.

And she s- she speaks so well.

But if it's nobody else's concern, don't get a body scan on television.

That is funny.

And she's so freaking smart, but, um, I'm so proud of her for that.

Uh, but, okay, so no phone.

But it hurt more...

Let me ask you, because this is how I felt.

Did it hurt more to speak to them when you got that Sunday phone call and then to hear their voice and have to hang up-

... it's all good."

Yeah, I didn't do that.

Ugh.

She was ...

I disliked her for years, and she made me feel ...

And I have to tell you, I was so ...

There was, this was not a big deal.

It wasn't on camera.

I was so nervous going.

She could've shut it down.

Mm-hmm.

That w- had to be the worst.

When Angie said that, that had to be the worst feeling in the wor- But prior to Angie say- I mean, Whitney was going, Whitney was repeating what she was saying anyway.

And you know what a really good friend that brought, that she, if she brought Kwai on, she should've said, "Listen, Kwai, understand this.

I have to repeat what you said-

But she's gonna have a hard time, um, on this show trusting her.

Well, yeah.

Whitne- listen, it's the nature of the beast.

Mm-hmm

... that's not going to be there to support you.

And the thing is, and would it...

You know, being together is supposed to be, you're supposed to be ma- married to the person who is...

And I'm, I'm getting my, my wires crossed here because right after wa- I watch this, I watch Salt Lake City.

And when you're married, you're supposed to grow old with the person that you're going to be taken care of by, not a person that takes from you.

Because when you can't give anymore, 100% that person is not gonna be there to give you back when you can't.

But still, I would like to have a big property on a island.

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Really? You're not? I could have sworn you were.

You don't?

No.

I think that, um, she wants him around.

I think that she likes the attention of when she maybe complains to him, how he does get upset for her.

I did a little ChatGPT on their relationship and, uh, his daughter works for Vicki, and him and his daughter and Mike, Mike and his daughter Olivia took very good care of Vicki, nursed her back to health when she was sick.

She had a big health scare.

She had sepsis, I believe, and they, he, she found her unresponsive in the bathtub.

I, I do agree with you that Emily is continuing to try and push Vicki to have her show up to work, but I also see Shannon going out of her way to try to soothe Vicki.

Not mine.

Truth.

Things stop working like they used to.

And they start to believe like they're not...

Like their whole life they were invincible.

And they put themselves...

A lot of men put themselves first.

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It doesn't fucking matter, Teddy.

It doesn't matter because there's excuse after excuse after excuse.

Yeah.

And I've been around this before, and I can tell you that it's a few different things.

It's, um, insecurity.

It is somebody in his life telling him it's shit, it's garbage, it's low class, 'cause what the fuck does he really know about it?

And I didn't like it then either

He was like, with the show 'cause he had people in his ear telling him, "The show is this, the show is blah blah blah blah blah." Um, when it's really, it's just an excuse to not be nice.

And I'm t- I'm being honest.

Grown ass man, he's retired, he's had his life.

What does he care about what she's doing? The, y- you know, there's enough time for him after filming.

So s- so she's working.

Oh God, like kill her for it.

Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

He's older.

He's in his mid-30s.

So you know, I feel like so many components of Alan's life and everything that he's been through, losing his mom so young and, you know, being the older one here, and I think he has, he has the age by his side, but I don't know if he has so much of the, uh, what everyone else has, like, what Adele has.

True.

There's different way ...

There's different training and stuff.

So I, I kind of felt bad for A- not bad for Alan.

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It wasn't exactly like, "Uh, you're coming with open arms," like, "I'm welcoming you with open arms." It was not that, but-

She did not...

Listen, I bring my friends places.

I've tried to get, uh, my friends on the show, like try.

Like, I still try, and I will always try with my best friend.

I don't really believe in that happening, but there was, there is someone I'm close enough that I want there who I trust.

Yeah.

[lips smack] Um, Kelly said, "I paid $250,000 for another attorney to do all the work.

Um, like Vicki, why not just try to engage in this conversation?

Vicki was taking it all in.

First of all, I would've felt awkward if I was Carmella to even speak.

If I was talking about my personal life and somebody's sitting there not responding or saying anything, I would've shut up right away.

"I just saw you on USA Today." [laughs]

Yeah.

No, I know.

So I remember when Paul first...

Yeah.

And you can tell.

Like, sometimes people lie about it.

Sometimes people have some type of, you know, dance just training or something in their background.

Um, you could tell that there was not.

That wasn't the case here, so it was really hard for them.

I think when they chose who was going to be, uh, their partners for their hardest, uh, challenge, I believe, they chose [laughs] well, because they really gave it to them.

Here's my question to you, what do you think that they're looking for more with their dancer? Do you think they're looking for someone who's a really, really good dancer, or do you think they're s- looking for someone who's really, really good at teaching people how to dance?

And that, and, but I was a smaller amount of time, but it was more like, "Okay, this is..." But that, mainly it's the person hosting.

Well, yeah, when there's an area it's the person hosting I'll say.

But usually that person hosting is kind of, um, giving up.

But any of the listeners, if you're planning a friend trip, you know how I do it if you're gonna walk into a house where all rooms...

Pick out of a hat.

Most of the things I do in life to make decisions, especially when it's in a group setting, pick out of a hat.

Yeah.

You know, with, with Shannon there is a part of me that understands, like, a loneliness factor, right? Like you're thinking you just wish you could pick up the phone and go off and tell and complain to your significant other about whatever it was you did that didn't go right.

Yeah

... that way for the same reason.

Um, but they, they seem to feel that Pinky's very dismissive of her investor's losses and- Like, she's like, "Oh, I'm just gonna file." And they're like, "But wait a second, the way you're saying it seems really, like, not empathetic to the people who invested in you." And Pinky kind of said a lot of stuff around it, her face got red.

She-

Yeah.

I remember she said Pilar was asking for him, and that bothered her a lot, and she didn't know how it was gonna wind up.

And it's, even at the best, even if you're secure financially going through a divorce, it's scary.

You know, it's hard.

All in all, I'm sitting there thinking, "Well, I thought that they were gonna be the weak team, but it looks like they might be the strongest team this week." It's interesting how quickly things can flip around on this show.

It is, because you, you never know who can, who has the intestinal fortitude to actually dig deep to get through and, like, be like, "All right, I'm gonna..." Some, not everybody has that, or not everybody has it at that certain time, right? So I think that, um, Nina came through.

She just did.

I didn't look at her in the beginning as she would be the best dancer.

I mean, I, there's a part of me that's like, "Hey, let's cut that out of the show," 'cause it almost seems like you're anointing her as the winner already, you know?

Right.

Um, but honestly, what does that do for the other dancers when you say...

Do you have to make that statement? As a judge, I understand you could say whatever the hell you want.

So they financially just share, you know, like h- I don't know the exact specifics, but she's not struggling in the financial department and I don't think old Danny is adding much to it.

Here's what I say.

It's hard for ...

I know I'm terrible 'cause not everybody has no soul like me.

Do you give a fuck that much? Carmella, you're hot.

You have money.

You have your own money.

[laughs] You know?

She dr- like, you can tell by the way she dresses she has a, a different type of money than, um, the rest of the cast.

I'm, I wanna Google that when I'm off the phone with you 'cause I'm curious.

But listen, I think she seems pretty nice, pretty good for him.

Um, she, they talked about when they had first met, how when she, her first interaction with Michelle, and Michelle was fighting with him in the street, and it was a whole big thing.

I, you know, honestly, who wants to be involved with that kinda shit? Like, you're, you're young, you're pretty, you're blonde, you got a hot body, and you have a lotta money.

Who wants to deal with a tumultuous ex relationship? Who?

... and also I'm saving them.

Yeah, there's that.

Was that a shady move? Like, I, I don't get this.

Okay.

She did that on the heels of them coming back from making up from a fight.

They come back to the table, and Karen said that she noticed other people at the table didn't seem happy for their makeup, right? That's what she based this on.

So I had to, I had to watch this a couple of times to figure this out.

Okay, then fast-forward.

We find out that Karen did it for that reason, right? She did it when she went...

Everybody wants to be Amanda.

Even just seeing her talk about it with him, I was like, "This is so beyond heartbreaking."

It, it's unfathomable.

I don't even know how to say it.

It's just, I really, my heart goes out to her.

God forbid anyone who has ever had to go through that nightmare and I've ...

I think about a parent all the time that has to deal with that or go through that.

Any, any loss of a child and it's just like, I'm just glad that she has support of the, her friends and she has support of Robert Senior.

Whitney Rose and I was like oh.