Uh, oh, and, and, uh, I, so I, I guess I'm just curious, like, so from the, from the jump, uh, like what can you remember from the beginning that you were, that you had in mind that was missing at the time? Like what were, what were some of the, the, you know, the, the e- evolutions that you were looking to make?

Well, like on, on a lot of mixers we scratch, uh, backwards.

You know how like a guitarist, some guitarists scratch...

I mean, I'm sorry, uh, play the guitar normal and like Jimi Hendrix would play the guitar backwards, right? But then if s- another guitarist wanted to borrow his guitar, they'd be like, "Damn, the strings are upside down so we can't play it that way." So we developed, uh, this...

It's a simple thing, like a switch that would rever- reverse the crossfader direction 'cause some people scratch like this, but we scratch like that.

So there's, we, uh, developed a switch called the reverse switch or, you know, in the Bay we call it the hamster switch, and then they put that in there.

So now all mixers have that, and then, uh, later I, I wanted...

Uh, any other projects you're also working on you're excited about?