The sound that emerged was elastic, metallic, I

didn't know how Spanky and Herb felt about it, and really more Spanky, because Spanky is the person that wanted to do music.

I was just a DJ, and I wasn't thinking I want to make music.

And he was always like, oh, Pierre, come on, we can do this thing.

I want to create a groove.

I want to do this.

So he got me into making music, and he also introduced me to Ron Hardy.

Future took a cassette of their track to Ron Hardy.