So do you in any way think that specific reform would give African countries now greater influence over the ICC governance, as well as its decision-making and a broader international justice framework?

That's the question.

I think from my own perspective, it should not be all about, you know, shaving African leaders from Africa.

So, that accountability applies equally.

And that is my own perspective.

So, for me, looking at reforms, I think the international criminal court is independent.

That is for me.

Now, speaking of mitigating, just as we wind down our conversation now, how can Africa amplify its collective voice and translate it into greater influence over the decision shaping of the global order?