Mm.

You know, if we're taking a boy from Kununurra and bringing him down to give him the, the same opportunity as the kid at Hale, or we're taking a girl from Esperance and bringing her up and making sure she's got the same opportunity as a girl from PLC, the personalized care that has to sit around that child to make sure, um, you know, when we've got...

when we're touching them, that we're making sure that they're, they're, um, they're happy and healthy and can get to training and...

You know, Michael Walters, I cannot tell you the difference that that one fella has made in WA Footy to be able to, i- from an indigenous perspective, to wrap some personalized care around some really exciting, um, young prospects that, uh, you know, again, I, I, I don't think the AFL understands how remote, um, many of our communities are and the cost it, it takes to be able to give those kids the same opportunities that the, the kids in the city get.

It's also the mult- cultural kids, you know.

I went out this week to the Bashar Houli Foundation, had their, um, their junior girls competition, and I've got to say, fellas, uh, like I never thought in my lifetime I would see these Incredibly talented and competitive young little girls running at it as hard as they did.

It was just, yeah, it was quite extraordinary.

How do you ge-extract more money, one, from the government, and two, probably more importantly, from your two subsidiaries, your major assets, the two AFL clubs, who pay you a pittance of what they earn?